Fact is, god doesnt exist

Escrito por brianwl, 16.07.2015 at 07:05

Lots of scientific papers now support this... i posted a thread on this already. pm me for links.

There are scientific papers that say fast food isn't bad. Does that mean it is true? I think not.

You can't just go by every thing that is labeled as 'scientific fact'

That's usually how people get fooled into believing nonsense.

Escrito por theFuehrer, 16.07.2015 at 10:58

Escrito por brianwl, 16.07.2015 at 07:05

Lots of scientific papers now support this... i posted a thread on this already. pm me for links.

There are scientific papers that say fast food isn't bad. Does that mean it is true? I think not.

You can't just go by every thing that is labeled as 'scientific fact'

That's usually how people get fooled into believing nonsense.

Couldn't agree with you more... read this with a critical mind. Nice thing about truth is it can withstand any test you throw at it.

Escrito por Khal.eesi, 16.07.2015 at 07:17

Escrito por brianwl, 16.07.2015 at 07:01

..... Havent looked much into the subject lately, any news on this?

not exactly news, but may be of interest since it's not widely talked about due to upsetting our materialistic bias of reality:

http://grad.physics.sunysb.edu/~amarch/ (there's other synopsis, wikiepedia even has one now apparently, but some good youtube videos explain this a bit better if you're not familiar with 'double slit' experiments and why they are so important. (i.e. requiring our 'consciousness' to render 'material objects'.


This article is a bit dense, but it shows and confirms that matter isn't 'deterministic' but 'probable'... one of the conclusions that falls out of this is that nearly everything we think we know about 'newtonian' laws are broken, and shows that our 'consciousness' (through taking a measurement) brings 'physical' objects into our reality. The reason the double erasure experiments were able to confirm this is that they overcome the 'measurement' problem of previous experiments. Two data sets for the same entangled pair can be collected... one turns into a particle, and the other can either turn to particles, or return to wave functions, depending on if the data is erased prior to a 'conscious' being taking the measurement.

This upsets all the old school physicists for some reason... apparently this can't happen if matter is 'real'.

Escrito por brianwl, 16.07.2015 at 11:15

Escrito por Khal.eesi, 16.07.2015 at 07:17

Escrito por brianwl, 16.07.2015 at 07:01

..... Havent looked much into the subject lately, any news on this?

not exactly news, but may be of interest since it's not widely talked about due to upsetting our materialistic bias of reality:

http://grad.physics.sunysb.edu/~amarch/ (there's other synopsis, wikiepedia even has one now apparently, but some good youtube videos explain this a bit better if you're not familiar with 'double slit' experiments and why they are so important. (i.e. requiring our 'consciousness' to render 'material objects'.


This article is a bit dense, but it shows and confirms that matter isn't 'deterministic' but 'probable'... one of the conclusions that falls out of this is that nearly everything we think we know about 'newtonian' laws are broken, and shows that our 'consciousness' (through taking a measurement) brings 'physical' objects into our reality. The reason the double erasure experiments were able to confirm this is that they overcome the 'measurement' problem of previous experiments. Two data sets for the same entangled pair can be collected... one turns into a particle, and the other can either turn to particles, or return to wave functions, depending on if the data is erased prior to a 'conscious' being taking the measurement.

This upsets all the old school physicists for some reason... apparently this can't happen if matter is 'real'.

I think this thing we call life is a lot more complex than that article.

Very interesting, nonetheless.

Escrito por theFuehrer, 16.07.2015 at 11:22

I think this thing we call life is a lot more complex than that article.

Very interesting, nonetheless.

agreed - the article just pokes a fatal hole in how most of us view 'matter' , as most of us think 'consciousness' is a byproduct of material universe, not the other way around.

But what you say is right... hundred years of scientific inquiry, and life is so complex we still don't understand even the basics.

Escrito por brianwl, 16.07.2015 at 11:01

Nice thing about truth is it can withstand any test you throw at it.

So true, but the nice think about false is that it disguises itself as truth every time.
False, can trick other False things, but Truth cannot be tricked or mistaken. Only by willfull submission would one trick themself to belief falsely.

Atheist, why does it matter to you wether God exists or not. You claim it brings use comfort, why desturb our "peace". If you know we are false why try to convince us? Does it change anything?