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30.05.2017 - 09:39
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Convince me why I shouldn't be a rankist

t. Alt with 47 Chromosomes

This was a WW1 game in Beginners (turn 5):
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30.05.2017 - 10:50
Escrito por Ghostface, 30.05.2017 at 10:37

We don't have these kind of things in the competetive side of the game , switch to playing duels and cws




Nice hacking my clanmates...
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30.05.2017 - 10:55
Escrito por Guest, 30.05.2017 at 09:39

Convince me why I shouldn't be a rankist


You're being rather tough on low ranks....

If you don't want to play with them, then go for it. But making a whole thread as an attempt to ridicule some players due to their rank/skill level is not nice at all.

I could list strong low ranks as well as noob high ranks. Trust, looking at someone's rank may be a rough but not good indicator of someone's skill level.

ELO is a lot better (it have its flaws, but those are fewer as with ranks).
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30.05.2017 - 12:49
Escrito por clovis1122, 30.05.2017 at 10:55

I could list strong low ranks as well as noob high ranks. Trust, looking at someone's rank may be a rough but not good indicator of someone's skill level.

ELO is a lot better (it have its flaws, but those are fewer as with ranks).

So bluecher is the best player and I'm the 26th? skill can't be measured, just displayed!
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30.05.2017 - 12:59
Escrito por RaulPB, 30.05.2017 at 12:49

Escrito por clovis1122, 30.05.2017 at 10:55

I could list strong low ranks as well as noob high ranks. Trust, looking at someone's rank may be a rough but not good indicator of someone's skill level.

ELO is a lot better (it have its flaws, but those are fewer as with ranks).

So bluecher is the best player and I'm the 26th? skill can't be measured, just displayed!


I said it have its flaws....

There's no such thing as a perfect system, but I believe ELO is the best that we have atm. Judging by rank is not good.

... skill can and should'be measured. At the very minimal we need to be able to rougly estimate someone's skill level based in some sort of system.
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30.05.2017 - 13:06
Escrito por clovis1122, 30.05.2017 at 12:59

I said it has its flaws....

There's no such thing as a perfect system, but I believe ELO is the best that we have atm. Judging by rank is not good.

... skill can and should'be measured. At least we need to be able to roughly estimate someone's skill level based on some sort of system.

Why do you think elo is any better than rank? It can be farmed in the same way people farms sp... just look at those low ranks in the leaderboard. Judging by rank or elo is no good.

In order to have such system, we would need to regulate it much more. Anyway, we don't have it yet.
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Don't ever look down on someone unless you're helping him up. Don't ever treat someone else the way you wouldn't want others to treat you.
We're all people.

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30.05.2017 - 13:33
Escrito por RaulPB, 30.05.2017 at 13:06

Why do you think elo is any better than rank?


The ELO system is regulated harder, with a 512-elo-difference rule which stops nearly all the farmers from reaching the 1600 ELO mark... there is a harder competition, and mods regulates the season trophies as well(there has been some bans and ELO resets). At least, in my active times...

It seems that you have some pretty high standards of what is a "good" system... though we could at least agree that ELO is a better indicator than Rank.

Anyway just made the point in response to the rankism comment.
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30.05.2017 - 13:35
Escrito por RaulPB, 30.05.2017 at 13:06

Escrito por clovis1122, 30.05.2017 at 12:59

I said it has its flaws....

There's no such thing as a perfect system, but I believe ELO is the best that we have atm. Judging by rank is not good.

... skill can and should'be measured. At least we need to be able to roughly estimate someone's skill level based on some sort of system.

Why do you think elo is any better than rank? It can be farmed in the same way people farms sp... just look at those low ranks in the leaderboard. Judging by rank or elo is no good.

In order to have such system, we would need to regulate it much more. Anyway, we don't have it yet.

He clearly said it has its flaws. Just like everything, except jesus.

No, elo cannot be farmed in the same way sp can. You can make a game and invite your friend, then just auto produce units etc.. With elo you gain more the better player you beat, which discourages playing weaker players. In regards to the leaderboards, if you see a low rank with high elo, he's either a. an alt or b. one of the better players in the beginner lobby. If you see a high rank with good elo, he's probably just a decent player (4-5 exceptions).
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30.05.2017 - 14:59
 4nic
Escrito por RaulPB, 30.05.2017 at 13:06

Escrito por clovis1122, 30.05.2017 at 12:59

I said it has its flaws....

There's no such thing as a perfect system, but I believe ELO is the best that we have atm. Judging by rank is not good.

... skill can and should'be measured. At least we need to be able to roughly estimate someone's skill level based on some sort of system.

Why do you think elo is any better than rank? It can be farmed in the same way people farms sp... just look at those low ranks in the leaderboard. Judging by rank or elo is no good.

In order to have such system, we would need to regulate it much more. Anyway, we don't have it yet.

most who farm elo can be easily spotted
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30.05.2017 - 15:28
If you want to gauge someone, look at the quality of their duel opponents and lookup the brackets of the tourneys they won. If both suck then its' probably a case of all flash no substance.
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30.05.2017 - 15:30
Escrito por Wheelo, 30.05.2017 at 13:35

He clearly said it has its flaws. Just like everything, except jesus.

LMAO
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We're all people.

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30.05.2017 - 15:31
Elo farmed in 5k
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30.05.2017 - 15:32
Escrito por clovis1122, 30.05.2017 at 13:33

The ELO system is regulated harder, with a 512-elo-difference rule which stops nearly all the farmers from reaching the 1600 ELO mark... there is a harder competition, and mods regulates the season trophies as well(there has been some bans and ELO resets). At least, in my active times...

It seems that you have some pretty high standards of what is a "good" system... though we could at least agree that ELO is a better indicator than Rank.

Anyway just made the point in response to the rankism comment.

Ofc, I understand you, but still, look at our leaderboard. Do you really think those are all our best players? I guess even our best system is kinda broken right now. Also, the 1600 elo mark is already too noticeable! Anyone would struggle to reach that amount

And hell yeah, I'm too perfectionist sorry for bothering you
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We're all people.

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30.05.2017 - 15:34
Escrito por RaulPB, 30.05.2017 at 15:30

Escrito por Wheelo, 30.05.2017 at 13:35

He clearly said it has its flaws. Just like everything, except jesus.

LMAO

That's right, laughing always proves a point. Also a great way to back out of a sticky situation
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30.05.2017 - 15:35
Escrito por Wheelo, 30.05.2017 at 15:34

That's right, laughing always proves a point. Also a great way to back out of a sticky situation

Idk what you're saying, I just found your exception to be quite funny, not trying to prove anything nor saying you're wrong
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Don't ever look down on someone unless you're helping him up. Don't ever treat someone else the way you wouldn't want others to treat you.
We're all people.

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30.05.2017 - 15:56
Escrito por Wheelo, 30.05.2017 at 15:34

Escrito por RaulPB, 30.05.2017 at 15:30

Escrito por Wheelo, 30.05.2017 at 13:35

He clearly said it has its flaws. Just like everything, except jesus.

LMAO

That's right, laughing always proves a point. Also a great way to back out of a sticky situation


I also laughed at your exception .
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30.05.2017 - 16:23
Escrito por Permamuted, 30.05.2017 at 15:56

Escrito por Wheelo, 30.05.2017 at 15:34

Escrito por RaulPB, 30.05.2017 at 15:30

Escrito por Wheelo, 30.05.2017 at 13:35

He clearly said it has its flaws. Just like everything, except jesus.

LMAO

That's right, laughing always proves a point. Also a great way to back out of a sticky situation


I also laughed at your exception .


I also laughed at his exception
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30.05.2017 - 16:28
OK GETTING 3V1D SOMEONE DROP AWP
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30.05.2017 - 16:34
 4nic
Escrito por Wheelo, 30.05.2017 at 16:28

OK GETTING 3V1D SOMEONE DROP AWP

LMAO
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~Napoleon


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30.05.2017 - 17:41
 Leo
Escrito por Wheelo, 30.05.2017 at 16:28

OK GETTING 3V1D SOMEONE DROP AWP

Bogdan's law
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30.05.2017 - 17:54
Anyone down for a game of cs D
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30.05.2017 - 19:41
Escrito por Khal.eesi, 30.05.2017 at 16:23

Escrito por Permamuted, 30.05.2017 at 15:56

Escrito por Wheelo, 30.05.2017 at 15:34

Escrito por RaulPB, 30.05.2017 at 15:30

Escrito por Wheelo, 30.05.2017 at 13:35

He clearly said it has its flaws. Just like everything, except jesus.

LMAO

That's right, laughing always proves a point. Also a great way to back out of a sticky situation


I also laughed at your exception .


I also laughed at his exception


I also laughed at his exception
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30.05.2017 - 19:47
Escrito por RaulPB, 30.05.2017 at 15:32

Escrito por clovis1122, 30.05.2017 at 13:33

The ELO system is regulated harder, with a 512-elo-difference rule which stops nearly all the farmers from reaching the 1600 ELO mark... there is a harder competition, and mods regulates the season trophies as well(there has been some bans and ELO resets). At least, in my active times...

It seems that you have some pretty high standards of what is a "good" system... though we could at least agree that ELO is a better indicator than Rank.

Anyway just made the point in response to the rankism comment.

Ofc, I understand you, but still, look at our leaderboard. Do you really think those are all our best players? I guess even our best system is kinda broken right now. Also, the 1600 elo mark is already too noticeable! Anyone would struggle to reach that amount

And hell yeah, I'm too perfectionist sorry for bothering you

theres a reason why i occassionally take my alt on walks to farm farmers
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31.05.2017 - 20:41
Gg romania took Transylvania
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08.06.2017 - 03:23
Go Rankist!
But there are too many high rank noobs in these days..
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