01.11.2019 - 20:38
All of these recent charges against me and others of bigotry, hatred and false allegations of seeking genocide, are projection. I have over 1100+ forum posts and I have never said anything 'hateful'. Yet this line of attack is constantly used without evidence as a means of preventing conversations taking place. The people who make this claim do not provide evidence and they themselves are guilty of posting hateful, borderline genocidal statements over the years. So let's ask ourselves: Who Is The Real Bigot Posting Hateful Things?
And they were always wrong weren't they?
YIKES! That's some VENOMOUS hatred there. These vile anti-white posts aswell as direct hateful attacks on other groups are not just hate-filled, they describe a person who is deeply embedded with their hate. They get off on spreading it. They HATE Europeans. Especially Germans. They also seem to hate specific types of people. People, I assume, who aren't fond of Israel. Must be a cosmic coincidence. I'm truly.... baffled... as to why... Boggles the mind I tell ya.
Translation: "Tirpitiz. You're just a piece of paper, a number. Nothing more than a statistic. You have no meaning, no connection to the soil or the collective struggles of the people who share your blood. The homeland your people have held for 10,000 years isn't your own. It's not your country, not your nation, you just happen to be on it." And this guy accuses of others of being hate-filled. Fucking wow. - "White's Aren't Becoming a Minority You Stupid White Supremacist!"
One Year before:
But it's all going to be fine. He tells us there will not be any problems and that it will be better for everyone.
Wait... what? You said it was good for us? DID YOU LIE? I AM SHOCKED. HE WAS LYING ALL ALONG! Imagine being this gleeful about forced ethnic replacement and knowing the horrors it will bring, but then later pretending it's perfectly fine and anyone opposing it is genocidal. Total projection and blood libel. But remember, you're the bigot guys, he wants equality and opposes 'hate'.
Blatant Classism And Economic Supremacism
Oh, the irony.
But remember, he always tells us he cares so much about inequality and the downtrodden. It is another lie, and another projection. Abrahamic Religions Are Regressive, Except Mine
He completely fails to mention the third Abrahamic religion, which founded the other two. He attacks Christians and Muslims for their texts, but completely misses out the third. I wonder why. HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM REALLY GETS THE NOGGIN' JOGGIN' Ethno-Nationalism For Me, But Not For Thee
Hmm, he seems really opposed to ethno-nationa-
Wait, what... Oh, I remember.
Every allegation made is a dark projection of how he really feels, and his posts, his hate and his hypocrisy are concrete evidence of this:
I rest my case. - UPDATE:
Within the Hebrew language section of the atwar forums, he translates a post by an Israeli, who may or may not be quoting an Israeli statesman. He translates this and at no point does he demean it, attack or discredit it. He doesn't attack the economic or social status of the person making it, nor does he claim that they have genocidal or racist intentions. He simply translates it, and I have no doubt, supports what is said:
Remember: ONE RULE FOR ME
ONE RULE FOR YOU
ONE RULE FOR ME
ONE RULE FOR YOU
ONE RULE FOR ME
ONE RULE FOR YOU
If my perceived resentment exists, would it not be absolutely justified by this language, ethnic-antagonism and hypocrisy? And would the hypocrisy I continue to find only reinforce it?
It is the hypocrisy that fuels this perceived resentment. Why does it continue? How can someone claim to oppose hate, yet be so hateful? How can someone claim to oppose inequality, yet celebrate inequality and use it as a line of obscene attacks? How can someone who claims self-determination on ethnic grounds as an immoral abberation yet support, celebrate and seek to maintain ethnic self-determinism for their own people? Why is all of this hypocrisy and willful hatred exclusively directed at European peoples?
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01.11.2019 - 21:04
You are totally right, and in top of it all - he doesn't even play the game. He is just here to bait.
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02.11.2019 - 12:10
...I mean, you're not wrong, but this in-depth analysis of a random forum person is kinda obsessive and a little creepy
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02.11.2019 - 13:06
Falsely accusing me of wanting to murder people isn't just slanderous. It's dangerous. It's a crime. It's not just socially stigmatising, it's the kind of thing that gets you put in prison, lose your job, family and ending up penniless and put on a list. Such claims are read out in court rooms as proof of ones character, and in the current environment we are in, I'm not going to take that lightly. I take that shit seriously, and if you don't, you're a fool. I stood my ground and proved my point while simultaneously proving that others were guilty of the things they accuse me of, which I have never done. If you believe efficiently defending oneself from blood libel and murderous accusations is 'obsessive' and 'creepy', then frankly, I think you're a pussy. You shouldn't be attacking me for defending myself, you should be attacking the person who would make such disgusting and false claims about me in the first place, especially when the person making them is clearly guilty of doing it themselves. You were never there to condemn him when he made such accusations, or said the abominable things he said of non-Jewish ethnic groups, people in downtrodden economic conditions or the blatantly genocidal comments he made desiring to see my people 'replaced' and 'lose power'. You didn't describe C Sharp's actions as creepy and obsessive when he would overtly accuse and stigmatise people and obsessively hound any kind of nativist talking point in the forums. Instead, you're attacking me for being the only person with the balls and will to throw it back in his face? To expose him and his wretched worldview and ambitions with his own words and without ever having the need to insult him? I wasn't expecting praise for my half hour of effort, but I didn't expect someone to insult me for defending my dignity and character. Grow a pair.
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02.11.2019 - 15:16
From what i've seen, Fascists tend to go into details and use law-making language. So seeing Tik-Tok do it makes sense, he said he is fascist. Fascist: 'ten thousand words post' Communist: 'racist' Capitalist: 'I don't care'
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02.11.2019 - 20:10
Tik-Tok would much rather engage with C_Sharp than me. Either 1. I am smarter than Tik-Tok and he's afraid that I will expose or embarrass him, 2. I am an idiot and Tik-Tok doesn't want to engage with idiots, and would rather dismiss their views and engage with someone who actually libeled him, or 3. Tik-Tok enjoys picking on idiots like C_Sharp and his enjoyment thereof exceeds his desire to engage with me. Look, Tik-Tok. You're an idiot. Your entire philosophy rests on very dubious assumptions about human nature, about culture, and faulty conclusions about race. Your worldview is driven more by feelings of victimhood than facts or logic. You draw disgusting and unfounded correlations between ethnicity, homogeneity, Jews, and power, and you've probably never met a Jew. As I've said before, you and C_Sharp belong together. I have no idea why you're spending so much time attacking him. I'm surprised that you two aren't friends.
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02.11.2019 - 21:31
Not gonna lie. It's a lot more fun and relevant. I feel a natural angst towards the primal antagonist that perpetuates the current paradigm over someone promoting a dead boomer philosophy that interprets an America that never existed and whose political aspirations are nothing more than a fringe placeholder preventing genuine nationalist consciousness.
No. Just no. This is your philosophy and worldview in picture form: Fossilised, because it's long dead. Fake, because it never existed in the first place. And representative of a video game controller, because it's basically a LARP where you play the 'individualist' hero in a story created in a corporate board room.
I don't see how I am supposed to engage with someone who ignores the Founders own writings and clear racial views which sought a racial, homogeneous state. I have replied to you many times and you never address what I say. If philosophy alone dictates a national destiny, then why are Liberia and the USA so radically different despite having an identical constitution and form of government?
Nice framing there. Attributing victimhood to C Sharp when he made accusations that I am a murderous criminal without evidence when he is the one who made bigoted, hateful remarks while holding a hypocritical set of rules for different ethnic groups and giving obvious preferential treatment to his own. Why don't you attack his remarks and worldview? Very odd. Very duuuuubious... Mine is at least consistent and well thought out while his is a hypocritical mess, deeply hateful and actually effects your day-to-day life.
That's just not true. No one believes I am an idiot, nor do you.
Pot calling the kettle black. You have adopted the lying progressive worldview. You claim to be some god-fearing individualist but deny the spirituality of race and tribe? How is what you desire any different from rebuilding the Tower of Babel?
It's driven by all three.
Unfounded??? This entire thread personifies this relationship and you are unable to give it any rebuttal or proper critique. Simply claiming something isn't true is not an argument, especially when presented with such monumental evidence of this phenomenon on a micro level within this very thread. How do you explain C Sharp's worldview, and the view of Hdrakon and others on this forum who all support an ethno state for themselves but deny and obfuscate any European nativist desires?
I am friendly with a multitude of ethno-nationalists from different ethnic backgrounds with a variety of political preferences. C Sharps goals are not only in opposition to the interests of my people, but are directly antagonist towards our national posterity. In fact, not just our posterity, but his goals actively seek my peoples demise. You might be a cuck that supports Israel despite the laundry list of reasons of why they an enemy and not an ally, but I prefer not to fellate the phallus, kiss the ring, or eat from the shoe of a state that hates my people and have malicious designs for them. Then again.. maybe you aren't a cuck. Maybe this narrative benefits you in some way. Hmmm... I can only conclude that you aren't being entirely honest about your relationship to this question either. A constitutional originalist who supports Israeli interference in native affairs and policies? Really dubious shit there, Spicer. Very dubious. Hmmmmm.... Noggin' is Joggin'.
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02.11.2019 - 23:07
Read the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution of the United States, then recite the Pledge of Allegiance while looking at the American flag. After you've done that, read below: With regard to the Liberia v. United States argument: Racial homogeneity alone does not determine the success of a nation. Otherwise, Liberia would be more prosperous per capita than the United States. The notion of a hierarchy of racial homogeneity is able to explain the success of a nation. For example, the United States is predominately white and is more successful than Liberia which is predominately black. However, this is merely an explanation, not a conclusion. You cannot draw a conclusion about success based on the correlation between it and a hierarchy of racial homogeneity unless you can tell me why that correlation exists. So, why is the United States more successful than Liberia? Because the United States was founded in enlightened ideals, and the people of the United States have been able to retain those ideals, despite of their decline, whereas Liberia was not founded in enlightened ideals. Although Liberia and the United States share the same constitution, a constitution means nothing if it's not supported by a people whose culture enables its ideals to flourish. My point is that a hierarchy of ideals, not a hierarchy of racial homogeneity, determine the success of a nation. The United States is in decline as a superpower not because of an influx of colored immigrants, but because its people are abandoning its founding ideals. Ideals, not race, is what distinguishes the United States from Liberia. With regard to the writings of the Founders of the United States: I'll refer you to my previous post where I listed twelve direct quotes from Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, Patrick Henry, George Washington, James Madison, John Adams, Richard Wells, Benjamin Rush, and David Cooper asserting their hatred towards the institution of slavery (https://atwar-game.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=42584). The title and opening statement of my post were facetious and intended to be read by an audience not unlike yourself. The quotes themselves support the opposite. With regard to Israel and its relation to the affairs and policies of the United States: I do not view Israel in terms of its population, but in terms of its status as a foreign power. Thomas Jefferson believed that "the objectives of foreign policy were but a means to the end of posterity and promoting the goals of domestic society," see Robert W. Tucker and David C. Hendrickson, "Thomas Jefferson and American Foreign Policy," Foreign Affairs 69 (Spring 1990): 139. Fundamentally, American foreign policy is driven more by domestic values than the vagaries of international politics. We believe in democracy, and Israel is democratic. We believe in freedom, and the regimes we toppled were tyrannical. We are allied to all Western democracies because they, like us, are democratic. We ally those whose values we share, and we make enemies with those we don't. Israel is an asset against Iran and surrounding regimes, not a liability. Money is not the only thing influencing politicians to support Israel, common sense is. You can't draw a correlation between the USS Liberty and Israel and expect me to believe it without supporting evidence. Concluding statement: I tried to make this post consumable. Don't respond to it sentence-by-sentence, just give me a coherent response so I can actually read it. That is, if you opt to respond at all. I blew you out of the park, no offense.
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03.11.2019 - 00:37
Firstly, my argument against this wasn't regarding homogeneity. It plays a part, sure, but the issue is racial stock. Why do you continue to ignore this part of the argument? It's total obfuscation and missing the point. I have made this argument countless times. The racial stock of a nation matters. There are many small Eastern European nations that have suffered terrible wars, and through the past century alone have changed from monarchies, to proto-Fascism, to communism to neo-liberalism and yet continue surpass Liberia in wealth, prosperity and contribution to worldly matters regardless of their political affairs. You argue that philosophy alone is the condition to prosperity, and yet Liberia defeats this point, time and time again. A homogeneous Slavic nation and a homogeneous subsaharan nation of similar size do not have the same material wealth or social conditions. These similar sized Slavic nations surpass Liberia and always have. You can call that 'racist' but reality disproves you. Calling reality 'racist' isn't good enough. Why do you ignore this solid point and return to the goal posts of homogeneity alone, when I never made this case? I clearly stated that a communist or even anarchist Britain would surpass a Fascist or Liberal Nigeria/Kenya. If Liberia has the same laws and government of America, why is Liberia in the position it is? By your logic, it should surpass these small Slavic states. It should surpass its neighbours, which it doesn't. Slavic and Anglo stock is different to Bantu stock. Regardless of the homogeneity, Bantu stock does not compete with the Slavic, Anglo, Germanic, Celtic, Hellenic, Frankish or Latin stock. Every metric shows this. You claim this metric difference is caused by philosophy and governance alone, and that the American philosophy creates miracles. If so, why is Liberia unable to compete with its neighbours let alone compete with the might and power of similar sized European or Asiatic nations?
Then what is your explanation for this consistent theme throughout all of human history?
Why not? It's the most consistent and honest correlation. No others explain this.
Yes it was. The nation state of Liberia was founded by the United States, conquered by ex-slaves who created an identical system of governance.
And where do such ideals come from? They clearly held these ideals if they put them into practice and enforced them? You're dancing around the obvious correlation. It's painful.
The US could completely abandon its ideals and still be a dominant superpower. In fact, it would be even stronger if it adopted a nationalist worldview. If ideals and policies dictate a nation's destiny, then importing people without such ideals will change this course. So yes, immigration plays a major role in this as they vote and elect on a different course. If ex-slaves - who took a nation in Africa in the name of America and enforce an American governance - are unable to live by this special code of yours, then who can? No one. Close the borders. Your own argument is fatalist in its own construction.
I know, I was mocking you. C Sharp himself blew you out. Quotes are meaningless without action. These people decried slavery and yet owned slaves. They were wealthy landowners with the power of the state at their fingertips. They could easily have employed people and paid them a wage for their labor rather than buying slaves to do it. They could have sought changes in the legality of slavery and yet never did so. It took a civil war to end the practice and even so, laws of state segregation were put in place. I am sick of this denial of the racial views held by almost everyone in the 19th and 20th centuries. The majority of people who sought to ban slavery did not seek to live as equals with black citizens. The policy was to free them and deport them, which they attempted to do and many were sent to Liberia. Liberia is founded on this.
And Jefferson also said: "peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations—entangling alliances with none." Israel isn't just an entangled alliance, it's a parasitic Siamese twin.
BULLSHIT
America never gave a damn about geo-political alliances depending on them being democracies and neither do I. Saudi Arabia isn't democratic yet the century long alliance with them continues, despite the fact there is concrete evidence linking Saudi Arabia to the 9/11 attackers.
They were sovereign prosperous states who were no challenge to the domestic affairs of the USA. Toppling them harmed our international and domestic affairs. The refugee crisis is a product of these endless wars. Islamic terrorism is a reaction to this interference and our uncompromising support of Israel. The war costs alone rack up to the tune of over $4-5 trillion, and the majority of Americans opposed them. Trump was elected on opposition to them. You're a goddamn Trumpist attacking his campaign promises. You sound like some Turning Point USA drudge. PATHETIC.
Then explain the relationship with Saudi Arabia and the myriad of violent autocratic regimes America has allied with for a century? Implying there is some moral justification behind elitist driven foreign policy endeavours is a bold-faced lie.
And why should we care about Iran? Why not seek reconciliation with the capable and key strategic Persians? Instead, a campaign of aggression has been conducted against them for decades at the behest of Israel. You ally with Saudi Arabia? You ally with Israel and they continue ethnic cleansing settlements despite multiple presidents demanding them to stop? There is no explanation for the treatment of Iran without understanding it is a demand Israel. Israel is an absolute detriment; it's stranglehold over US policy is detrimental. Relations with this nation sour relations with far more strategically important possible allies across the world. Israel is a parasite to the USA.
He actually brought it up. wtf... where did that even come from? I have only mentioned the USS Liberty once on this forum, 3 years ago. Once. There are only 5 times the USS Liberty has ever been mentioned in original posts on this forum's entire existence, including my offhand remark on it. The fact that you mention it that is extremely suspect. You assumed I would bring it up, despite the fact I never have, and attempted to prevent it from being a talking point. That's really weird... and terrible debating strategy. ....... but since you brought it up: Recordings of Israeli pilots communicating with ground control expressly said that the ship was American. Ground control replied and commanded the pilots to follow their orders and sink the ship. For 75 minutes, Israeli submarines and aircraft rained hell down upon an American ship murdering 35 US navy personnel and injuring over 200 others. Multiple US flags were raised, and each time they were shot down. The largest flag the ship carried was raised and it too was shot to pieces. Israeli pilots even waved at the US naval troops on deck prior to attempting to the attack. These multiple trips flying over the vessel were done to document all the transmission equipment with the intention of knocking it out to prevent them messaging for help. The attacking aircraft had no insignia, illegal under international law. They jammed US emergency transmissions of the vessel, ILLEGAL under international law. They fired high calibre bullets at not one, not two, but 3 sections of life raft that Naval personnel attempted to put to sea, ILLEGAL UNDER INTERNATIONAL LAW. The attack ONLY stopped when the US Naval communications personnel worked out that when the Israeli jets fired missiles, they temporarily dropped their jamming. They managed to get a message through on the emergency broadcast and the Israeli's immediately stopped. They stopped because the mission was no longer covert and would be caught actively attacking a US vessel deliberately. They knew it was a US vessel, they stopped the ship from messaging for help, all because the vessel was a US intelligence ship intended to listen in on the Arab-Israeli conflict. The recordings likely contained evidence of Israel committing war crimes or other material that Israel felt would harm them, such as confirmation of Israel itself starting the conflict. It's irrelevant what it was they wanted destroyed, because the goal was to destroy it, sink the ship and kill all crew on board. The fact that the Israeli aircraft used unmarked planes to conceal Israeli ties is more than enough evidence on its own, but their deliberate intentions are absolutely proven. Pilots recordings are public confirming the ships as American before attacking and Israeli ground control commanding them to sink it. What other evidence is even needed? None. There are numerous accounts from survivors who openly state that Israel knew it was an American vessel. They hold yearly memorials and demand Israel recognises the attack as deliberate. They demand America condemns the act of war. We know all this from military reports. We know this because declassified recordings of the Israeli pilots prove it. We know this because veterans of this attack have told us. They do detailed interviews regularly. They are still pissed about the cover-up and refusal of Israel to acknowledge that they deliberately attacked the vessel with the intention of sinking it and killing all the crew on board. When asked if they are certain that the Israeli's fully intended for their to be no survivors, the veterans all say that this was the clear goal. Who the FUCK are you to deny the truth they routinely speak on the issue? Who the FUCK are you to defend and justify the MURDER of brave American soldiers in a deliberate attack on an American vessel? Who the FUCK are you to call American soldiers liars? You're a fraud, a liar, and a subversive antagonist. The USS Liberty incident was a war crime, a deliberate act of war by Israel against it's greatest ally, America. And the only people who are usually aware this even occurred... are Nationalists... and Zionists. Which are you? I think we both know. You revealed you hand in mentioning the USS Liberty, Zionist infiltrator.
I'll respond how I please. I am not ruled by your conditions. I like to dissect the bullshit. You don't because you're incapable of it, and you never attack the points made. You just obfuscate on weird tangents in bloviating tirades. And you fucked up by mentioning the USS Liberty, one of the most memory-holed events in human history. I suspected before but now I know. You confirmed my suspicions of who you are and where you stand. I'd also like point out that you didn't reply to my comments regarding your framing of C Sharp's attacks, nor have you condemned them or his comments in the past. In fact, you've never attacked him on his hypocrisy and ethnic antagonism, but you attack me for defending myself. It's obvious why.
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03.11.2019 - 05:06
You're so dense, that a wignat has sophisticated politics in comparison
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03.11.2019 - 15:07
What about this Tik-Tok, why is it happening, explain this, it is bigger issue imo than Israel or USA: Isn't Nationalism tied to the Ethnic Group and not Race? First time i hear this on the internet from you guys, never from my own people. You constantly repeat White Nationalism & Race, but ignore Ethnic Groups. Is that because your country favor British Union over England? (it happened in USSR and Yugo for example) Western Whites ceased to fight aproximately 100 years ago, EVEN THOUGH disputes are not settled ('its not player123 fault for his country invading mine, so why should i blame him' vs 'you scum occupied us and killed many of us, we will have revenge gamer321' type of flame wars), while Eastern Whites are still fighting, even settling disputes centuries old (though pressured or stopped by the Western Whites most of the time but i won't go into politics). Why did you chose to disregard the injustice done to your tribe in the past by your White neighbor, in return for loose Race/Color Union? To me, like most other Slavs, Ethnic Group is more important than Race/Color, when we see someone hostile or historically hostile, we don't see 'hey this is potential race ally', no we see potential danger, regardless of color. Do you see potential ally in French, German or Pole? Your view looks way too much idealistic, like other edge of the same swords. Like communist view multiculturalism and like neoliberal see globalism, similarly you see color alliance - seems that you willingly ignore all the hardships those ethnic groups done to you, and blame some other force. For example do you see Serbians and Croatians allying, like ever? Or Russian and Ukrainian? Ukrainian and Pole? Russian and Pole? Armenian and Georgian? Bosnia have Christians, Catholics and Muslims, do you think they prefer Race over Ethnic Group? (yes Muslims consider themselves ethnic group, but i dont want to go into politics this time, or better to say demographics)
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03.11.2019 - 20:31
This is true, but when a foreign occupation is felt, people begin to identify with one another more. White racial in-fighting will likely occur as a product of a Homogeneous European continent, but I'd rather be insulted by racial kin, than occupied and slowly genocided by a foreign occupier.
'British' is a globalist plot. Britain remains an Empire, and so is the EU, and Russia for that matter. I am an Englishman but most of my heritage is Celtic. Rather than importing the third world, I'd rather repair the relationship between my Island peoples. As much as I would prefer to be a 'Little Englander', the geo-political reality makes it abundantly clear that this is impossible. The world is one of Empires and global goals, and the little guy always gets crushed. I would like to see an EU with all of Europe inside it, but not governed by a neo-liberal politic. Through this system, the various ethnic groups of the White race can negotiate and argue for their interests and make nationalistic decisions together without sacrificing our necessary global outlook. I'd also prefer a system of governance where suffrage is earned, likely through a 'Starship Troopers' system where each individual is hazed to prove their willingess to fight for the body politic, proving their right to suffrage. Monetary and financial donor systems within politics need to be eliminated. As it stands, I don't see any other preferable viable alternative.
I agree. It's not an easy situation to solve, but importing more ethnic groups who are even more alien is only going to make things worse and allow unscrupulous internationalists/capitalists to create further divisions rather than building class/ethnic bloc's to negotiate their interests within the European network. That is their goal after all. Immigration is a capitalist meme.
Yes, absolutely. The propaganda within the West is anti-White. It is not anti-ethnic but it sometimes can be, but negative propaganda is exclusively aimed at Whites/Europeans. We're all in this together, even if we don't like each other. A global international clique hates us all. Look at C Sharps comments. His hatred is not exclusive to one European group, though it's more vitriolic towards Germans. His hatred is aimed at all Europeans, even the Macedonians who've harmed no one. What they are doing in the West, they absolutely desire to in the East too. These people have ancient memories and ancient stories. They remember every insult and slight against them, even if they deserved it. Every deportation, every time some peasant simply said 'no'. Whatever injustice may have been done to my people was long ago, and I live in the 'now'. The current occupation is far worse than any before and seeks total national destruction. Previous occupations by other European groups was overt, blunt and justified its presence through might and power. It was honest in its goals. We Europeans have always respected that, even on the victimised side. We have all been victims and oppressors at one point in our histories. This new foreign occupation across Europe is unique. It isn't overt, it;s not blunt, it's secretive with for more destructive goals.
Europeans will learn to they are White and Endangered whether they want to or not. The system is making that more and more clear everyday. If the West declines, the East will soon follow. I believe the internet is easing this phenomenon. Poland is the next in line for subversion. We're seeing it now.
Divide and conquer is powerful strategy, and these disputes are used to maintain hegemony over them, but while these ethnic groups may not like one another, they aren't killing each other anymore. There is some progress. There's a big difference between animosity and violent hatred. I don't think anyone in these forums of differing Yugloslavian backgrounds would want to hurt one another. Taking a leaf out of the globalist book. Europeans need a new mythology, and a greater foundational story. I'd like to point out that what you are saying is no different than Hitler's perspective on these issues. He too had the same problem dealing with global capitalism and its insidious strategies within the European sphere. We deal with reality, we don't have a choice. Either we fight together, or die alone.
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04.11.2019 - 10:33
And have you heard of Yugoslavia? It decided to stick together after WW2, so it doesn't get butchered again, and to be against East and West so it doesn't get cucked by USA or USSR. Yet, when the Union collapsed, they slaughtered each other. Therefore we can conclude: 1. They always hated each other, they just couldn't do anything because some force stopped them, until that force was gone and they returned to (their) normalcy of killing each other. 2. They liked each other so they decided to create a Union, but after some time they started to hate each other and so Union broke. Same question and conclusion for EU: 1. They fought for 5000 years and then suddenly made an alliance, change of thought? Love thee neighbor? Or was there some higher power eliminating all those who wish to continue to fight? 2. Genuinely forgive neighbors and unite against common foe What option is more realistic to you? Taking into account 5000 years old human history, biology and traits.
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04.11.2019 - 12:01
So were European ethnic groups from one another.
Incorrect, Croats, Slovenes and Serbs of Austria made a State, then merged with Kingdom of Serbia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_Slovenes,_Croats_and_Serbs
But Balkan is part of Europe, why do you want to exclude it from the topic about Europe and use the term 'West'? This backs my original question to Tik-Tok.
History is simple, it becomes complicated when people start to involve politics so history can justify their contemporary agenda.
So are South Slavs, part of huge Slavic tribe.
Same with Slavs.
So did Slavs.
So did Slavs, various unions, like Yugoslavia, Cossacia and Russia 1654
During WW1 and WW2, some South Slavs chose to fight with the Serbs/Allies.
And then there was war between South Slavs, ethnical, political and religious.
And during Cold War there was lasting alliance of 50 years. Even their army consisted of various south slavic ethnicities.
And then came Western Globalism, which made a big impact on South Slavic soceties, Ironically, part of the tribe decided to join the Empire, while other parts rejected, was invaded and it is still hated. You didn't prove Balkan is different than Europe, but that is exactly the same (because it is part of European Family duh)
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04.11.2019 - 15:52
Are you saying Western Whites are different than Eastern Whites? If yes, then that mean they are softer because they allow 'higher power' to oppress them and not allow them settle age long dispute with their neighbor. If no, then that mean Tik-Tok is right?
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04.11.2019 - 17:20
Jesus this tik-tok guy is creepy. I muted him a week back yet he is making these stalkerish posts on me lmao. Does he not know I only go onto this website to troll
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04.11.2019 - 17:24
If you put this effort into your actual life instead of being a creepy stalker, perhaps you'd have a decent life. You and your victim mentality XD. Do you think I'm some Israeli New World Order leader? Half the time I'm trolling on this website. Anyways, putting you back on the ignorelist. You can be schizophrenic with the other people on this website, you're not worth my time.
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04.11.2019 - 19:09
"muh years of kvetching about muh suffering and muh victimhood"
"muh 11 million" https://www.timesofisrael.com/remember-the-11-million-why-an-inflated-victims-tally-irks-holocaust-historians/ "muh safe place"
"Yeah, I was, erm, trolling, when I used my Phd study in Hebrew to translate some obscure radicially zionist supremacist quote in the Israeli section and spent my entire time on this forum obsessively attacking any Europeans who aired any grievances about immigration or national identity." "I'm just a troll...."
"I'm not being super serious"
"I'm a troll, but I signal others like me to promote a zionist narrative"
"Trolling is fine, I haven't spent my entire time on AtWar kvetching about it."
"I didn't say trolls are sad people for years on end."
"I didn't actively seek to get 'trolls' banned"
"I totally didn't want this forum to die because it gave me neurotic rage-fits"
"I'm a troll, guys, I clearly had no agenda to get this place shut down and ban these people who wouldn't eat from the shoe"
"It's, erm, all a troll guys. I totally didn't get BTFO'd and EXPOSED"
He's reaching Spicer level's of saltiness. C Sharp when he saw this thread:
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04.11.2019 - 19:22
If I'm being honest. This was C Sharp's actual reaction to this thread:
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04.11.2019 - 20:22
Nah it's fine lmao. I'm not offended too much by what you wrote xD. You haven't really turned to any personal attacks; it's all political stuff
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04.11.2019 - 20:44
By what I wrote? Again, reframing the obvious point of the thread. You wrote hateful things. I didn't. I never have and never will. I do not 'hate' other groups. I do not personally attack or insult, I may be snarky towards a persons worldview but I don't attack them. You did that on dozens of different occasions. All I have posted are your own quotes, so how can you be 'not offended too much' when these are your own quotes that are posted? This thread isn't a personal attack or flaming. It's simply requoting things you said. Don't push your hatred on to me. Had I posted even a single quote of yours, I would have been banned. You have intensively sought others to be banned and celebrated when they were. Some possibly deserving, some not so deserving. You have had an agenda to shift the culture of these forums and clear it of all the people you oppose with a vitriolic zeal. So why should they be banned and not you for even a quarter of the things you have said? Why have you not apologised for your hypocrisy and hatred when you have spent your entire atwar life cycle condemning such things? Will you admit that you are a hypocrite on the issues of ethnic self-determination when it comes to Europeans compared to your own perceived ethnic group? Will you admit that you feel resentment towards Europeans? Will you admit that you lied when you told everyone I held hatred towards groups that are not my own?
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04.11.2019 - 21:31
You're such a wolf in sheep's clothing. Look at you trying to act all innocent, like you don't hate jewish people and non-white people. You don't have much to gain by pretending that, you know. Atwar has no impact on the real world, it's a browser game on the internet.
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04.11.2019 - 23:22
Never-ending projection. What you say about me is true of you. You're the one spouting anti-white hatred while pretending your open-border worldview is beneficial to Europeans, while secretly harbour a deep ethnic preference for Israel.You're the one claiming a holier-than-thou 'anti-racist' and 'pro-equality' image but attacking on racial and economic lines. Nothing you say can be trusted and clearly hides an ulterior motive. In one conversation, you say open borders are good for Europeans, in another you celebrate the downfall it will cause. In one conversation you proclaim the goodness of your status quo policies and in another you celebrate European loss of power and replacement. You are the wolf in sheep's clothing.
Every argument others have made against you that you attacked with zeal, were used by you in the quotes you translated and supported within the Hebrew thread. You're the one using ethnic slurs. You have to prove this claim you keep making but can't. I have provided abundant evidence from your own quotes that you are hate-filled. You project on to others.
Projection. What did you have to gain from all your pretense which I utterly smashed with this thread?
Projection. Why have you spent years obsessively countering nativist sentiment on here? It may not be important, but it's obviously awfully important to you.
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04.11.2019 - 23:24
I'm not sure if you realize this, but I don't care about some rambling on a browser game. I'm trolling perhaps 80% of the time on this game.
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05.11.2019 - 02:35
Suuuuuure you are... anti-white bigot
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05.11.2019 - 03:08
I upvote for the gif
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