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Ok I am officially ending the game, sorry that there will be no Grand Finale. None of the Triumvirs except Sertorius wanted civil war. However, the other two guys got absurdly angry at me. One has even blocked me, and imo has begun to take this game way too personally. I don't want to lose friends over a forum game, this is literally the only reason why I am now stopping. Also, a good lesson as to why you keep IC and OOC separate. ....Although in a way I see it as a success I got people to be this emotionally invested in a forum game
gg all, let us now remember the great legends of the roman families
Triumvir Families - these 3 have reached the apex of power, although shared
Gens Sertorii
The Sertorii are an old and powerful family that has been influential in politics and later on in war against the Numidians, Parthians and were regarded as superior naval commanders. They have had 6 consulships, numerous prosecutions, and were always a controlling force behind the populares movement. In the late republic Flavius became the most influential, and arguably strongest of the 3 triumvirs as ruler of the west.
Gens Maria
The Marians are a very old family that was highly regarded for their religious positions. Over the course of roman history they have held a stunning 7 consulships and 1 dictatorship. Much of marian history has been military oriented, known for defeating the Seleucids at Magnesia in early times. In the mid republic they were leaders of the populare movement but were assassinated when political tensions rose, temporarily weakening the family allowing the Sertorii to take control of the party. Later, the ambitious Gaius Marius Maximus became the youngest ever dictator defeating the Socii revolt, and after defeating the massive pontic forces in Greece declared the revolt against the corrupt senate with the aid of Sertori and and Rexians. After Quintus Sertorius died however the rivalry between his son Flavius and Gaius Marius Maximus became more pronounced as they were the two ambitious leaders of the populares and resented each other.
Gens Rexii
The Rexii have consistently been a presence in roman politics, having held 6 consulships and countless other positions. The Rexii are regarded as extremely skilled politicians having risen from former disgrace to great influence and wealth as a founding member of the populares. The Rexii do have a reputation of being greedy, yet their wealth bought them power that can now no longer be denied as rulers of the eastern provinces.
Winning Families- these families picked the right side and successfully navigated the roman game of thrones to high positions of power
Gens Flavii
Of all the families in Rome, the Flavii are the most well regarded among wealthy equites. Long ago this was not the case, but following the downfall of the Numetorii, the Flavii inherited much of the wealth of the Ripam Alexandrie and begun their own steady rise to 2 consulships and numerous censorships and praetorships. Aligning with the populares the Flavii became the political centerpiece of the movement as they secured such influence among the equite class that their power in the senate became overwhelming. Ever after they were given the surname of Cato, meaning wise. And wise they have been, supporting the right side becoming rich and powerful.
Gens Nipii
The Nipii emerged from obscurity in the punic wars, being used as master of horse for less competent dictators. However, in the end they secured their own command becoming heroes of the republic after defeating Hannibal at Cannae. This fame was long lasting but in the mid republic their fortunes began to dwindle as legions loyal to the Nipii were destroyed in the numerous wars. A founding member of the populares, the Nipii have been loyal partisans and this has kept them from sinking lower. Decius began to reverse these fortunes as being part of the battle of Rome and then following Sertorius into the west becoming his heir. The Nipii may rise once again…
Gens Octavii
A wealthy and influential political family, the Octavii were strong allies of the sertorii, and they aided each other's rise. The Octavii had numerous connections throughout the city of Rome among the equites, and were commonly the Praetor, but also have secured Consulship twice in history as well as governorships in cisalpine gaul. The Octavii carefully maneuvered the dangerous political battlefield, never have been assassinated, always working from within the shadows to emerge on top.
Gens Marcii
The family history of the Marcii is a winding but tragic one as well. Over the course of history they have influential, holding 4 consulships and their most famous moment was commanding the sack of Carthage, however Africanus fell to a plague and was later utterly disgraced by being implicated in treasonous plot with the Antonines. Rising from this misfortune they switched parties to the Populares and became a decisive element in the civil war by granting support in return for rule over the Asian provinces. But once again, the head of the family died, this time in battle, reducing the family to mediocrity.
Gens Paulli
The Paulli are a notoriously wealthy but also greedy roman family. They rose to power after falling out with Potestatem party by making deals with the Populares to rule wealthy provinces as long as they turned a blind eye to their corruption. Amassing huge sums, the Paulli were never in Rome for most of their history. But this is not to say they are without merit, for they helped bring roman civilization to cisalpine gaul, and were large bankrollers of the populare movement. In the civil war they grew more ambitious seeking military commands as admirals and growing closer to the Sertorian faction.
At least I am still part of the wealthy 1% Tier
Gens Numetorii
A once more powerful family in the early republic and leader of the notable third party, ripam alexandrie, the untimely death of the head of the family ended this movement. Later on, the Numetorii aligned themselves with Potestatem, but their high status was degraded by being on the losing side of the civil war. The Numetorii have held 4 Consulships, numerous other political positions and were known as saviors of Rome from the Germans and victors against the notorious Viriathus in their brightest moment.
Gens Caetronii
The Caetronii have always been defenders of the roman state, military leaders, above political factionalism. Over the course of history they have held 5 consulships and 1 dictatorship. The Caetronii were known as victors over gauls in early times, but were most influential in the mid republic reaching an apex under Lucius who defeated the Spanish revolts as well as the pirates, guiding Rome through a turbulent political time as a neutral player. In the late republic their fortunes fell as Lucius grew old and his heirs could not defend the republic from the populares. Even so, the Caetronii are a continuing strong presence in the roman state.
At least I am not dead Tier
Gens Cornelli Scipiones
An old and active family, their fortunes rose to supreme heights in the early republic as conquers of Illyria and climaxed with their 1 consulship. Later though they were politically destroyed by the Populares and then fell into obscurity, and when Gnaeus began to rise he was struck down by plague. In the late republic Metellus was known as the most stalwart defender of the senate and fought until the last at Africa.
Gens Varii
From plebian origins, the Varii rose from the lower classes to the senate with the support of the Potestatem party (by giving them huge sums of money). The Varii reached their apex in a consulship with the Numetorii, after defeating a huge german horde in pannonia. After this moment of glory they began to fade as their wealth dried up and the Potestatem lost political power. After the battle of rome they surrendered to the populares but despite this were still executed due to hatred against them from the Marians. Even so, the Varii have not been utterly destroyed as the family still lives on as their recent son has been spared by the now more merciful populare senate due to the passage of time.
Gens Pedii
Plebians like the Varii, the Pedii rose to political relevance in a dangerous political era. With civil war imminent, they were thrust into hard decisions. A marriage alliance almost occurred with the Rexii potentially earning the favor of the populares but this ultimately broken down and the Pedii backed the Senate to their ultimate doom. Despite donating their entire fortune to the senatorial cause, this was not enough as the senatorial forces failed three times in battle. Escaping from the populare onslaught as governer of narbonese Gaul, the Pedii were finally captured after the Senatorial defeat in Africa and exiled.
Losers - families fallen from power, or traitors, or extinct
Gens Antonia, Gens Phoenicii, Gens Maximii , other people who have dropped out
Ok I am officially ending the game, sorry that there will be no Grand Finale. None of the Triumvirs except Sertorius wanted civil war. However, the other two guys got absurdly angry at me. One has even blocked me, and imo has begun to take this game way too personally. I don't want to lose friends over a forum game, this is literally the only reason why I am now stopping. Also, a good lesson as to why you keep IC and OOC separate. ....Although in a way I see it as a success I got people to be this emotionally invested in a forum game
gg all, let us now remember the great legends of the roman families
Triumvir Families - these 3 have reached the apex of power, although shared
Gens Sertorii
The Sertorii are an old and powerful family that has been influential in politics and later on in war against the Numidians, Parthians and were regarded as superior naval commanders. They have had 6 consulships, numerous prosecutions, and were always a controlling force behind the populares movement. In the late republic Flavius became the most influential, and arguably strongest of the 3 triumvirs as ruler of the west.
Gens Maria
The Marians are a very old family that was highly regarded for their religious positions. Over the course of roman history they have held a stunning 7 consulships and 1 dictatorship. Much of marian history has been military oriented, known for defeating the Seleucids at Magnesia in early times. In the mid republic they were leaders of the populare movement but were assassinated when political tensions rose, temporarily weakening the family allowing the Sertorii to take control of the party. Later, the ambitious Gaius Marius Maximus became the youngest ever dictator defeating the Socii revolt, and after defeating the massive pontic forces in Greece declared the revolt against the corrupt senate with the aid of Sertori and and Rexians. After Quintus Sertorius died however the rivalry between his son Flavius and Gaius Marius Maximus became more pronounced as they were the two ambitious leaders of the populares and resented each other.
Gens Rexii
The Rexii have consistently been a presence in roman politics, having held 6 consulships and countless other positions. The Rexii are regarded as extremely skilled politicians having risen from former disgrace to great influence and wealth as a founding member of the populares. The Rexii do have a reputation of being greedy, yet their wealth bought them power that can now no longer be denied as rulers of the eastern provinces.
Winning Families- these families picked the right side and successfully navigated the roman game of thrones to high positions of power
Gens Flavii
Of all the families in Rome, the Flavii are the most well regarded among wealthy equites. Long ago this was not the case, but following the downfall of the Numetorii, the Flavii inherited much of the wealth of the Ripam Alexandrie and begun their own steady rise to 2 consulships and numerous censorships and praetorships. Aligning with the populares the Flavii became the political centerpiece of the movement as they secured such influence among the equite class that their power in the senate became overwhelming. Ever after they were given the surname of Cato, meaning wise. And wise they have been, supporting the right side becoming rich and powerful.
Gens Nipii
The Nipii emerged from obscurity in the punic wars, being used as master of horse for less competent dictators. However, in the end they secured their own command becoming heroes of the republic after defeating Hannibal at Cannae. This fame was long lasting but in the mid republic their fortunes began to dwindle as legions loyal to the Nipii were destroyed in the numerous wars. A founding member of the populares, the Nipii have been loyal partisans and this has kept them from sinking lower. Decius began to reverse these fortunes as being part of the battle of Rome and then following Sertorius into the west becoming his heir. The Nipii may rise once again…
Gens Octavii
A wealthy and influential political family, the Octavii were strong allies of the sertorii, and they aided each other's rise. The Octavii had numerous connections throughout the city of Rome among the equites, and were commonly the Praetor, but also have secured Consulship twice in history as well as governorships in cisalpine gaul. The Octavii carefully maneuvered the dangerous political battlefield, never have been assassinated, always working from within the shadows to emerge on top.
Gens Marcii
The family history of the Marcii is a winding but tragic one as well. Over the course of history they have influential, holding 4 consulships and their most famous moment was commanding the sack of Carthage, however Africanus fell to a plague and was later utterly disgraced by being implicated in treasonous plot with the Antonines. Rising from this misfortune they switched parties to the Populares and became a decisive element in the civil war by granting support in return for rule over the Asian provinces. But once again, the head of the family died, this time in battle, reducing the family to mediocrity.
Gens Paulli
The Paulli are a notoriously wealthy but also greedy roman family. They rose to power after falling out with Potestatem party by making deals with the Populares to rule wealthy provinces as long as they turned a blind eye to their corruption. Amassing huge sums, the Paulli were never in Rome for most of their history. But this is not to say they are without merit, for they helped bring roman civilization to cisalpine gaul, and were large bankrollers of the populare movement. In the civil war they grew more ambitious seeking military commands as admirals and growing closer to the Sertorian faction.
At least I am still part of the wealthy 1% Tier
Gens Numetorii
A once more powerful family in the early republic and leader of the notable third party, ripam alexandrie, the untimely death of the head of the family ended this movement. Later on, the Numetorii aligned themselves with Potestatem, but their high status was degraded by being on the losing side of the civil war. The Numetorii have held 4 Consulships, numerous other political positions and were known as saviors of Rome from the Germans and victors against the notorious Viriathus in their brightest moment.
Gens Caetronii
The Caetronii have always been defenders of the roman state, military leaders, above political factionalism. Over the course of history they have held 5 consulships and 1 dictatorship. The Caetronii were known as victors over gauls in early times, but were most influential in the mid republic reaching an apex under Lucius who defeated the Spanish revolts as well as the pirates, guiding Rome through a turbulent political time as a neutral player. In the late republic their fortunes fell as Lucius grew old and his heirs could not defend the republic from the populares. Even so, the Caetronii are a continuing strong presence in the roman state.
At least I am not dead Tier
Gens Cornelli Scipiones
An old and active family, their fortunes rose to supreme heights in the early republic as conquers of Illyria and climaxed with their 1 consulship. Later though they were politically destroyed by the Populares and then fell into obscurity, and when Gnaeus began to rise he was struck down by plague. In the late republic Metellus was known as the most stalwart defender of the senate and fought until the last at Africa.
Gens Varii
From plebian origins, the Varii rose from the lower classes to the senate with the support of the Potestatem party (by giving them huge sums of money). The Varii reached their apex in a consulship with the Numetorii, after defeating a huge german horde in pannonia. After this moment of glory they began to fade as their wealth dried up and the Potestatem lost political power. After the battle of rome they surrendered to the populares but despite this were still executed due to hatred against them from the Marians. Even so, the Varii have not been utterly destroyed as the family still lives on as their recent son has been spared by the now more merciful populare senate due to the passage of time.
Gens Pedii
Plebians like the Varii, the Pedii rose to political relevance in a dangerous political era. With civil war imminent, they were thrust into hard decisions. A marriage alliance almost occurred with the Rexii potentially earning the favor of the populares but this ultimately broken down and the Pedii backed the Senate to their ultimate doom. Despite donating their entire fortune to the senatorial cause, this was not enough as the senatorial forces failed three times in battle. Escaping from the populare onslaught as governer of narbonese Gaul, the Pedii were finally captured after the Senatorial defeat in Africa and exiled.
Losers - families fallen from power, or traitors, or extinct
Gens Antonia, Gens Phoenicii, Gens Maximii , other people who have dropped out
Fine. Let's assume you are right. That still means it's 'Optimates' who're the secret power whoring faction not ENIGMA since we declared ourselves... Omfg you're stupid.
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Notice how Aetius is never a target of assassination? is because he doesn't power-whore like you and gow do. Optimates always makes sure to have another non-optimate in the ticket.
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Hmm you first say Enigma and Optimates allied. Then you say Optimates trying to stop Enigma fucking up. Now you back to Enigma and Optimates allied. The contradictions... Optimates doesn't yet exist. If its a secret faction we had no knowledge of it, and thus when we made nominations, we assumed we were nominating neutral independents.
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Why do you and GOW keep mentioning my name? GOW is the one who put me up for prosecution. ps. you need to stop the fucking spamming. It's so childish its unreal.
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i dont see your problem this whole fucking game is a power hoarding game, first to get to 35 influence wins wtf dont you understand about it? there is no happy ending here this is not a fucking disney channel program. its last man standing, caveman kind of crazy ass game.
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Aetius is rigging the game....aetius isn't power whore....aetius is part of Optimates and Optimates is power whoring.... Dude just stop. You're not grasping at straws you're trying to catch them after they've blown away. He isn't a target of assassination because he's GM. Why don't you try and assassinate him last game instead of blaming us...
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Lol I'm spamming? Wtf. You weren't involved, please don't get involved now. I won't mention your name.
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"neutral" is an illusion. all i know is that Optimates and Enigma are in bed with each other and will continue to nominate themselves to consulship for the rest of the game unless people start getting assassinated. Since i don't belong to any group there is no way for me as a true neutral to stop you guys from whoring power unless i manage to kill either of you to break the circle.
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Too time consuming to do properly on a phone.
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Answer the question dumbass How am i ganging up on you? And yes you're spamming stfu
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Guys, some strategy, lets attack the gaul and beat the shit out of them and then quickly destroy the illyrians, unless carthage is getting annoying, in wich case we'll just attack them, wich we would do the next turn anyways
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But you said you're neutral...so which secret faction are you working for if neutral is an illusion. You just said Optimates was trying to stop Enigma fucking shit up. That ss shows Aetius was trying to limit gow. Why would he if we were in bed together. Now you say we're allied. Make up your mind. And don't make up factions.
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Every single thing i have predicted has happened, you guys are extremely predictable. It dumbfounds me to see that other people don't catch up to your greed. If nothing is done either Enigma or Optimates will win within 3 turns.
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K you asked. While the prosecution discussion was on, it was me and gow versus the rest of you.
Nice. Not mentioning Tunder, Aqollo, or even gow or Tirp. Directing at me. And then you say this. Answer the question dumbass How am i ganging up on you?
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I have seen it this whole time. Thought they were greedy. I then look at myself and realise i wanted the same. You probably wanted alot of power yourself. It's what the game is all about.
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Maybe they don't 'catch up' because you're being overly paranoid... We can't win in 3 turns don't be ridiculous. Optimates hasn't been announced, and Enigma is 3 people.
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;^) those things aren't mutually exclusive to each other. Optimate can still try fuck enigma while temporally cooperating with it. People can still be in factions even if they don't declare them openly. People can claim to be neutral when they are not. People that don't look neutral like me may be actually neutral.
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Cause you are the one constantly entering in my name. I defended myself in the procession. I WAS THE ACCUSED, HOW AM I GANGING ON ANYONE? IT WAS THE OTHER WAY ROUND!
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well that and also again only one person can win not a whole faction....
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Thought neutral is an illusion? You can't be in a faction without announcing it. It's a fucking voting block. In a faction there are perks and protections.
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Actually Aqollo brought you up,but fine. You weren't ganging up. But since only me and gow were saying guilty, we weren't ganging on you either especially with Aqollo and your faction defend you and veto prosecution...
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Optimates is not a in-game faction. is a Clan-based faction. 
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Ok going to address some points, as always tunder has half truths. He is right, pyrrhus and I are in a partnership, but beyond that idk, aurum is on our side but he also votes for himself in cases. We haven't formed a faction because we are only 2 ppl and are considering joining a current one and/or recruiting another person. Yes we have been cooperating with Virtus in some matters, only because its inevitable being co-consuls/censors although its not really a conspiracy. I don't like how Virtus have enriched themselves with concessions but meh, its part of the game and honestly fully within their rights and a smart move. Either way, imo the Senate won't tolerate another consulship like this, they will likely vote for the most non-virtus/ "optimate" consulship this turn. Nor will I support any more appointments for GoW (gaius julius) because his influence is becoming super high. As for the dictator thing; Dictator must be ex-consul rules say so but yeah its true the original does not. As always we follow rules as they are written right now to prevent the absolute clusterfuck of last game, but we can change next turn if you want, idk why I put it had to be ex-consul probably just because I was copy-pasting censor stuff. As for assassination, maybe allow turn 5. The only point was so that we didn't bring old animosities into this game but its quite evident new animosities are coming up. *scrambles to get bodyguard before then* 
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K any other crap you need to spew out, keep doing so. I need to go study. Will reply later, (unless it's too boring and points have been repeated in which case, gfy)
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You are getting the context all wrong, by illusion i meant that what you perceive as neutrality is not neutrality but merely people pretending to be neutral while they actually belong to a secret faction, in this case optimates. I am true neutral.
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Ok so now you agree i wasn't ganging up on anyone in my own trial. Doesn't matter if aqollo brought me up, your are constantly tainting my name with your false words while you look for sympathy.
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Yeah...might want to read what Aetius just said below. Also, if Optimates is a clan based faction why is only Enigma getting flak for being one? Are you seriously that insecure about 3 men?
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Not really. I'm not looking for sympathy. Why the fuck am i looking for sympathy
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No...true neutral is Switzerland who doesn't support anyone. You obviously support Phoenix.
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