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Publicado por Mauzer Panteri, 07.10.2017 - 15:15
Strikers :

1. MP
2. Nero
3. Lemonade / first mod.
4. TheDarkLord12
5. Sphinx
6. Steve Aoki
7. lcarus.M.T.
8. Sexy Girl
9. Gardevior
10. RoaiStyle
11. Laochra
12. GhostFace
13. Sascha
14. Fight Shadow
15. Nations vs nwo.
16. Hellykin
17. G.R.O.M
18. Trystane
19. FlameandFury
20. LukeTan
21. Your Monkey
22. NorthernPeick
23. Jester
24. Invisible
25.
26. Darth.
27. Jaredb027
28. Kogi
29. FreeCandyVan
30. SubipraDebadhikary
31. Revot
32. Tequilapaf
33. JUGERS2
34. Land_of_fire
35. Lord Zeus
36. Chill
37. Redtechs
38. b0nker
39. Cao Mengde
40. K. Sneaky
41. Your Mother
42. Don
43. Opi
44. TheKeeper
45. Trystane Jr
46. Soviet Elvir
47. Phoenix
48. Dizabo
49. MajestyZ
50. AdorableChrome
51. Croat
52. Labienus
53. Critical
54. Cpt.Magic
55. Guard
56. Skittzophrenic
57. K_Himmelreich
58. Unleashed
59.
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It was a time that this happen.

Reason : AW has become unplayable.

The game is under 10% potential, because it got abandoned and has nothing new or good. Html version still looks very ugly, even if we got used to it.
Competitive scene died. Proof for that is my friend eagle won east tour. D
So many players quit or stopped playing this game.
Because no upgrades, Bhutan server, bugs (so, so many bugs).

Who can explain why this game, which most of us still love and think it has a lot of potential, turns into this.

Graphic, server, and motivation are on such a low level for 2017.

We (every player who signs here, he have to post and apply to join in strike group) demand improvements, and we demand them soon.

The current state is not acceptable for us.
So we will not play this game again until all our wishes are met.

List of our wishes :

1.Fix server so we can play like humans.
2.Release map editor already.
Admins promised that gonna be done 2 years ago. We can't wait anymore.
3.Demote inactive and useless mods.
4.Implement two new strategies. Even if they suck, we just need something new. We can make a topic with suggestions for new strats.
5.Fix codes. It is so easy to exploit some of bugs.

Everyone who supports this, post here to join group of strikers.
Only thing you have to do is not to play games. Chat in game, insulting other players while they play is allowed. Forum posting is fine too.

But if you play even a single turn since strike is on, you will become betrayer, an admin spy, and someone who is happy with currently state.

Players which also stopped to play because of some of those reasons are welcome to join too.



Betrayers / Amok's best friends list :

1. Kappa1917
2. Waffel
3. Tirpitz406
4. War/ Kayser Soze
5. sswoffels
6. Galerius
7. Ted
8. 4nic
9.
10. White Army
11. BobTheBuilder420
12. Cold Case
13.
08.10.2017 - 17:09
Escrito por Amok, 08.10.2017 at 16:59

C#, JavaScript, PHP, MySQL

I can help with C#. as it comes to the webprogramming i learned Javascrift PHP and MySQL it but did'nt work on actual projects with them, however if you don't find anyone else I have lot of time and surely can figure out how to help with small things. Again just make a thread many people will offer their help.
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08.10.2017 - 17:10
Galerius
Cuenta eliminada
Escrito por Amok, 08.10.2017 at 17:07

Escrito por Khal.eesi, 08.10.2017 at 16:59

1. Find the time to fix the basic bugs and map maker and then say your goodbyes
2. Make all the game options free and leave everything on auto-pilot
3. Consider hiring one or two young programmers who will work for coffee and apple pie just so they can have this on their resume and have them occasionally fix bugs and etc maybe try the mapmaker
4. Sell the game and since its obvious you lack the time/energy/motivation to adequately handle this, maybe make a public announcement with an approximate price and the community can spread the word.

1. Re-read my first reply
2. I'm sure that would make people who spent money on premium very happy /s
3. Trouble with young programmers who work for coffee is they make more mess that actual work
4. Public announcement would do no good, but we're always open to offers




Back to my point 1 :

Make a public (in the game i mean) campaign of mods/admins hiring with a list of task and goals.

With a hierarchy, a calendar, powers to control the game deeply etc...
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08.10.2017 - 17:10
 Crow
Escrito por Amok, 08.10.2017 at 16:59

C#, JavaScript, PHP, MySQL

I know all these languages and more. I've sent you a PM 15 minutes ago.
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08.10.2017 - 17:12
Escrito por Amok, 08.10.2017 at 17:07

3. Trouble with young programmers who work for coffee is they make more mess that actual work


Did you and Ivan considered making AW open source?

In any case, I believe if you manage the changes via a version controlling system, there wouldn't be a "mess".

P.S: sent you a message again...
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08.10.2017 - 17:13
Mauzer just saved AtWar

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08.10.2017 - 17:15
Escrito por Rock Lee, 08.10.2017 at 17:13

Mauzer just saved AtWar



Come on nerds of atwar, stop your fapping and send in your cvs!
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08.10.2017 - 17:24
Like Roai said above, there are enough people over the past few years who've commented on multiple forums that they'd want to help with programming, im pretty sure most of them already quit AW due to the lack of updates and probably lost the need to play this game.

I'd say try what Roai described above and perhaps it wouldn't be badd to like make a monthly or weekly updated forum with actions that need to be done, or what updates u guys are thinking about, and actually involve the community in it. I am pretty sure you'd be surprised with what people come up with. This is probably the first time again in years that i've seen you actively talk with the people on the forums. Most people, especially in the suggestion forums, have made good suggestions which really improve the way this game plays and looks. I believe The Tactician (mod) even made a thread about it with all links to those suggestions, i'd say some are really worth looking at it.

To the people blasting on Amok at this moment:

You guys do realise its their game right? I mean every game is gonna end advantually, and some last for a verry long time, and some don't. Its their choice to sell this game or do something with it. AW has much potential, but on the other side it doesn't. At some point in the rankingsystem playing for SP is getting useless, most people dont even care about it anymore, i'd think there needs to be like a new improve which gives the people more drive to play it again.

Anyways before its to late, i'd like to thank both you and Ivan for holding this game together for the last couple of years, to bad I havent been here since the start, cause I knew and still do know alot of ways to improve it, but you guys managed to do a hell of a job holding it together with a small team like that.

I'd say its smart to just come with suggestions and fix this together, because this community, as you can see, is verry willingly to help.
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Escrito por Guest14502, 11.10.2014 at 09:44

Waffel for mod 2015
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08.10.2017 - 17:31
 Amok (Administrador)
Escrito por Waffel, 08.10.2017 at 17:24

Like Roai said above, there are enough people over the past few years who've commented on multiple forums that they'd want to help with programming, im pretty sure most of them already quit AW due to the lack of updates and probably lost the need to play this game.

I'd say try what Roai described above and perhaps it wouldn't be badd to like make a monthly or weekly updated forum with actions that need to be done, or what updates u guys are thinking about, and actually involve the community in it. I am pretty sure you'd be surprised with what people come up with. This is probably the first time again in years that i've seen you actively talk with the people on the forums. Most people, especially in the suggestion forums, have made good suggestions which really improve the way this game plays and looks. I believe The Tactician (mod) even made a thread about it with all links to those suggestions, i'd say some are really worth looking at it.

To the people blasting on Amok at this moment:

You guys do realise its their game right? I mean every game is gonna end advantually, and some last for a verry long time, and some don't. Its their choice to sell this game or do something with it. AW has much potential, but on the other side it doesn't. At some point in the rankingsystem playing for SP is getting useless, most people dont even care about it anymore, i'd think there needs to be like a new improve which gives the people more drive to play it again.

Anyways before its to late, i'd like to thank both you and Ivan for holding this game together for the last couple of years, to bad I havent been here since the start, cause I knew and still do know alot of ways to improve it, but you guys managed to do a hell of a job holding it together with a small team like that.

I'd say its smart to just come with suggestions and fix this together, because this community, as you can see, is verry willingly to help.

I'm grateful when people offer their help and try to volunteer. It works well in modding, even with admins, promotion, etc. But programming is a different beast altogether. Once you start digging deeper, you realise that most of these people who are offering their help won't be able to manage the game of the size and complexity of atWar. It's incredibly difficult to find talented, dedicated, programmers, who are willing to work for peanuts (well, maybe a couple of hundred peanuts, but still peanuts).
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08.10.2017 - 17:33
Escrito por Waffel, 08.10.2017 at 17:24

You guys do realise its their game right?


We are not asking it only for ourselves. really dedicated players will find their place in the game no matter what (even if you lose duels and cws because server crashes), most of us will probably continue to play anyways. the problem is we all want the same thing - porsperous game with many players. problem is not only playerbase is reducing but community is more devided than ever. in afterwind the gap between noobs and pros was even more insane but they played together at the same games. now not only turnblocks reforms and flowerpower cancel made the gap even higher (turnblock was op but now it's harder for new players to understand when it should work and when not. and also i gave birth to the latemoves and made games more rigged. instead of matter of creativity and strategy competitive scene became mostely science) but also community is more devided than ever. everyone finds his confort zone - RP. WWI. duels and cws. and when new players have to deal with that they are being farmed or kicked. even though in terms of techlonogy game made huge jump it made it way more difficult for the community to prosper.

Now. why am i saying it? because all bugs and deatchment are making it even harder for the community to grow, the game needs some small changes to match it to scenarios era so it can continue otherwise it will keep reducing and become financial burden eventually that will bring it to its end. no one wants it right?
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08.10.2017 - 17:39
 Amok (Administrador)
Escrito por Rock Lee, 08.10.2017 at 17:33

Now. why am i saying it? because all bugs and deatchment are making it even harder for the community to grow, the game needs some small changes to continue otherwise it will keep reducing and become financial burden eventually that will bring it to its end. no one wants it right?

Well said. Except the changes it needs are not small, but rather big.
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08.10.2017 - 17:40
Escrito por Waffel, 08.10.2017 at 17:24

To the people blasting on Amok at this moment:

You guys do realise its their game right?

Anyways before its to late, i'd like to thank both you and Ivan for holding this game together for the last couple of years, to bad I havent been here since the start, cause I knew and still do know alot of ways to improve it, but you guys managed to do a hell of a job holding it together with a small team like that.



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08.10.2017 - 17:51
 Amok (Administrador)
You know how to play Tornado of Souls? How could I forget, awesome stuff.
Anyway, that's it from me for today, PM me your CVs people, we'll figure something out (hopefully).
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08.10.2017 - 18:12
Escrito por Amok, 08.10.2017 at 17:39

Well said. Except the changes it needs are not small, but rather big.


What? motivating players into playing with each other? it should'nt take thousands of hours of coding. here are some suggestions

1. 50k Whole World games became farming heaven for high ranks to take advantage of low ranks and small numbered games for gangbangs. we need to get the rest of the community to play again in default map. First i suggest to motivate default map 10k games by rewarding winners of games with at least ten players with protocoins. second making whole world games or 50k games as in old times allowed only to premiums to host (or with protocins),

2. As i mentioned above. community is devided because players play the same scenario over and over until eventually they stop playing anything else because they won't be as good as they are in the very scenario. i suggest to cut the number of SP players earn from scenarios in half when they reach rank 7.

3. Reset upgrades for everyone and make them more Expensive now when there is SP inflation

4. motivate small clans to play Clan wars with each other. those who try get beated by vetrean clans and the only reward player get from cws is protocoins after their first CW. sp is not relevant because it takes time until you start winning cws. i believe after reform in upgrades or with SP from scenarios and default map more clans will try CWs. but i also suggest more rewards in form of protocoins or if you have time to make another kind of coins unrealted to premium (that you could for example use to host world games).

5. pick every week a map as mod choice and reward the player who earns most victories or most SP playing it with PC


I hope it's clear by now that by small changes i don't mean mapmaker and rewriting the game from the ground. just to pay some attnetion to make community play together
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08.10.2017 - 18:14
I hope it won't take an entire year until he shows up again
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08.10.2017 - 18:58
In other words, Amok "Bla I won't sell my game, neither will I invest in the game, so you losers please continue to volunteer to make profits to me. And btw, you losers still playing AW? LOL. Get a life. Just like me, I have a family, I have a high-paid job so I won't do no paid work to entertain you losers who have paid me the money xaxaxa. Consumer protection? Screw that shit. Sue me in a Latvian Court narb...."
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08.10.2017 - 20:22
Escrito por Dragon, 08.10.2017 at 18:58

In other words, Amok "Bla I won't sell my game, neither will I invest in the game, so you losers please continue to volunteer to make profits to me. And btw, you losers still playing AW? LOL. Get a life. Just like me, I have a family, I have a high-paid job so I won't do no paid work to entertain you losers who have paid me the money xaxaxa. Consumer protection? Screw that shit. Sue me in a Latvian Court narb...."
hes Estonian up one country
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08.10.2017 - 20:38
Count me in
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08.10.2017 - 21:01
Sounds Cool, I'm in too!
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08.10.2017 - 21:01
Count me in
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08.10.2017 - 21:02
Count me in
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08.10.2017 - 21:05
Promoted, support the Cause!
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08.10.2017 - 21:06
Yeah boi
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08.10.2017 - 21:15
This game needs a revolution! The time is now, the mods don't listen to us, they mute us! The admins refuse change and have been shoving atwar into the mud. Small clans need to be motivated, reset upgrades for everyone and make them more expansive, for years we have been cheated and lied to! We need bigger changes, not small ones. The admins know that they need us more than we need them. We are players united! We will dismantle the oppression and we will continue the strike, even if it takes an eternity! With your support, we will the send the hammer of the people's will crashing into this site. Let me assert my firm belief, that the only thing we have to fear is fear itself. Welcome to the AtWar revolution, mother fuckers!
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08.10.2017 - 21:16
His Majesty, Xanxth of Xanxthland, hereby denounces this strike and refuses to participate.


We note that this strike provides no means to improve these "issues".


The "shitty servers" arent so shitty, It's a combination of how the website is optimized and your PC/Internet specs.... The website allows a socket to timeout 3-4 times before closes, i edited my settings to make this infinite timeouts, therefore I don't get "DC" for websocket failed. I almost NEVER have "server issues" when playing at home(my internet vs grandmas)....


I think if anything the playerbase has let us down by allowing cancerous gameplay( war on t4 allyfag gangbang) to go unchecked, thus leading to the demise of atWar. Instead of coming together to discuss fixes, yall strike. I bet if you looked at all registered members, many know HTML5/JAVASCRIPT and could aid in the further development of this game.


Therefore I refuse to participate in the strike and laugh at all yall


Sincerely,
Xanxth
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08.10.2017 - 21:17
I'll play "as is".
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08.10.2017 - 21:36
I'll join
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08.10.2017 - 21:41
You guys shouldn't do this, it is gonna hurt atWar and make worse than it is actually. You are speeding up the death of this game.
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08.10.2017 - 21:41
Well my thought on the topic is amok gets his fucking finger out and pays a nigga atleast 5k tops ( my punctuation is shit just roll with it ) i mean even here in australia we would have niggas buyin this !!SHIT!! but i mean its the best shit ive seen in years unless you wanna be dropkicks like yo kids and this failfag game im considering going back to www.1.alphawars.com which btw with its 9 game servers which havent been touched in 2 years still pulls in minimum 750k every year MINIMUM which is run by Studio Hoppe GmbH so i suggest being multi millionaires it will take 10 years but in that time you can make 2 other games also cant be fucked doin your shit for you scout unis game comapanies even us motherfuckers this game is my fave but you be a shitcunt with amok and ill ddos the shit outta your life with hate and you will prolly cry bitch ever had a rifle shred your earlobe? motherfucker australia wil come for you.
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08.10.2017 - 21:46
Escrito por Spartan King, 08.10.2017 at 21:41

Well my thought on the topic is amok...........? motherfucker australia wil come for you.

Take 420 out of your name, you're a disgrace.
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08.10.2017 - 21:53
Escrito por Xanxth, 08.10.2017 at 21:46

Escrito por Spartan King, 08.10.2017 at 21:41

Well my thought on the topic is amok...........? motherfucker australia wil come for you.

Take 420 out of your name, you're a disgrace.
Disgrace? I used to have respect for you, but it turns out you're just a fag who just can't see the truth. Open up Xan, we need change, and we need to ACT. We have waiting years for updates and what do we get? Nothing! We spends hundreds and thousands of dollars on premium and what do we get back? Nothing! Amok and Ivan are just sitting there enjoying the wealth they are gaining from us, when they could be updating the game and fixing bugs. I mean, its so easy nowadays to manipulate the game in several ways, like ruining games with the inspect element hack.We have been waiting for new updates for years! YEARS! The time for revolution is here! The time to act is now!
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